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➤ Babyboomers at war with their kids: sad fact of recession or generational theft?

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“It’s war!” – Babyboomers v. their kids

➢ Moral Maze, June 26 – catch up on iPlayer:

They’ve been called the Dick Turpin generation but time could be up for the babyboomers this week as the Chancellor announces spending cuts and universal benefits, like free bus passes and winter fuel payments for rich pensioners, start to look tempting targets. But for some this is more than just an argument about balancing the books – it’s about inter-generational equity. Instead of being custodians of future generations the babyboomers are accused of busily raiding their kids’ piggy-banks, saddling them with a vast and increasing national debt to fund for their own generous pensions and welfare payouts.

❏ The knives were out in last night’s combative episode of Radio 4’s Moral Maze, the weekly debate chaired by Michael Buerk. With Anne McElvoy, Giles Fraser, Matthew Taylor and Melanie Phillips. Witnesses: Ros Altmann, Former Director-General of Saga; Angus Hanton, co-founder of the Intergenerational Foundation; Ed Howker, co-author of Jilted Generation: how Britain has bankrupted its youth; and Stuart Prebble, producer of Grumpy Old Men TV series and books.


“grumpy babyboomer”… “generational theft”… “generational guilt”… “generationally selfish”… “inter-generational equity”… “income imbalance”… “politics of envy”… “power of the grey vote”… “transfer of reserves”… “stewardship”… “compact of citizenship”… “human sustainability”



➤ Glenda Jackson silences Tories in Commons tirade against Thatcher

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Glenda Jackson lets rip: click on image to run video in a new window

By far the most heinous demonstration of Thatcherism was across the whole country in metropolitan areas where every shop doorway became the bedroom, the living room, the bathroom for the homeless. They grew in their thousands, and many of those homeless people had been thrown out onto the streets from the closure of the longterm mental hospitals. It was called care in the community. What it effectively was was no care at all in the community.

During her era London became a city Hogarth would have recognised. Everything I had been taught to regard as a vice was under Thatcherism in fact a virtue: greed, selfishness, no care for the weaker. Sharp elbows, sharp knees, they were the way forward.” – Glenda Jackson MP, in today’s Parliamentary debate which “considered the matter of tributes to the Baroness Thatcher”

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Gin Lane (1751) by English artist William Hogarth: shocking scenes of infanticide, starvation, madness, decay and suicide in London

➢ “If the measure of a great political leader is the extent to which they leave a footprint on those that follow, Margaret Thatcher, for better or worse, was a great leader,” writes Patrick Wintour in The Guardian – “David Cameron has never been able quite to embrace or reject her politics. He, like many of his contemporaries, has almost internalised the trauma of her premiership and ejection from Downing Street in 1990… / Continued online

➢ The politicised argument over how to remember the former prime minister is not about the past,” writes Jonathan Freedland in The Guardian – “The wider Tory tribe seems determined to use the nine-day limbo between her passing and her funeral to define Thatcher in death in a way that would have seemed impossible, if not outright absurd, in life…” / Continued online